Welp, that would make almost every piece of fiction I’ve ever written a ‘don’t’, then.

impressioniste:

freckles04:

impressioniste:

freckles04:

lywinis:

impressioniste:

David Gaider’s number one ‘Don’t’ when writing:

  1. ‘Don’t start with description.’

My number one don’t when writing?

1. Don’t write like David Gaider.

It’s a valid point. If you start with a paragraph of description, you’ve slowed down the story before it even gets started. If you start with interaction of some sort — the protagonist with his or her surroundings, or with another character — you’ll be better off.

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Most advice like this is valid in moderation. I just really raise my eyebrows at such blanket suggestions. Yes, starting with ten pages of description about rolling green hills is going to bore most people. But good description relevant to the story and/or what’s going on can grab someone just as quickly and strongly as a few lines of snappy dialogue or a good action scene.

My original post was also really tongue-in-cheek, but I’m not sure I conveyed that accurately.

Well, as he says elsewhere in the article, “Two, that when it comes to writing, any rule exists to be broken. If you’re going to break rules, however, you need to do it with style.” You have to CHOOSE to break the rules you want to break.

So description starting off the story, if done well, can work. I think his comment was mostly that he saw enough entries this go-round where it didn’t work.

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This is why calling them ‘rules’ in the first place is sort of problematic.

I’d just like to point to people like Tolkein. And Charles Dickens. And Mark Twain. Who leaned very heavily on almost exclusively description, and imagine pop culture if we didn’t have those stories. So Impressioniste is right - everything in moderation. Find a style that suits you. Gaider’s style is fairly stripped down, and I think he probably gravitated naturally toward stories that were reminiscent of his own style based on his rules.

And wouldn’t it be sad if the next Tolkein were one of the many entrants and decided not to write any more because of this? Keep to your style.

  1. ryncol reblogged this from caligaes and added:
    What Yuki said. It’s totally, you know, ok to criticize Gaider/an author, even if you don’t consider yourself an author....
  2. robot-o-thoughts reblogged this from kamidoodles and added:
    Fuck Gaider. The only rules I follow when I write are grammar, spelling, and ones I’ve set for myself due to my...
  3. fructoselollipop reblogged this from kinlochhold and added:
    I dunno, I kind of agree with him. And not just because it’s Gaider and he’s a personal hero. I sought out a lot of...
  4. plotdevice said: I don’t disagree with him, stylistically. The opening line of my favorite book is, “The great grey beast February had eaten Harvey Swick alive.” It starts you off in the middle of the “action. But that is personal preference, much like his list.
  5. combination-nc reblogged this from vanessasketch and added:
    Statements like that really bothers me, but I am not a native speaker so it is very possible that I do not understand...
  6. zyrenskistudios reblogged this from vanessasketch and added:
    I think what he means by “writing is not a pleasant endeavor, not when you do it well” is more along the lines of...
  7. zahhaks-twerking reblogged this from kamidoodles
  8. phoenike reblogged this from combination-nc and added:
    Once again a bit too tired to write out my thoughts about the topic at length, but I’m going to say a couple of things…...
  9. blondielovesbroody reblogged this from freckles04 and added:
    I really can’t agree with this more, and yet moreso if you’re writing on the internet and not published work. When you...
  10. byrontobofur reblogged this from skiesovergideon and added:
    I’d agree: don’t make such vague generalizations. Those never help anyone do anything, especially creatively.
  11. tasmen reblogged this from caligaes and added:
    The ‘butthurt’ comment was really directed at people not liking his writing. Folks are entitled to that opinion. It was...
  12. kamidoodles reblogged this from vanessasketch and added:
    I’ve just got for words. Lord of the Rings
  13. caligaes reblogged this from tasmen and added:
    Erm, well, in my opinion Gaider’s prose can be a bit… difficult. I really don’t like his writing in the novels, but I...
  14. vanessasketch reblogged this from hawkeward and added:
    That’s why I really liked Stephen King’s book On Writing. He made a good argument for staying with “said” and to not...
  15. alexandraerin reblogged this from cypheroftyr
  16. hawkeward reblogged this from combination-nc and added:
    What is driving me absolutely up the wall about all of this is that David Gaider is not the same kind of writer that he...
  17. rinjirenee reblogged this from tasmen and added:
    Reblogging for truth Also Gaider said the rules can be broken, so… SOMEONE NEEDS TO READ A LITTLE MORE INSTEAD OF BEING...
  18. lywinis reblogged this from zeowynda and added:
    His rules for writing are bullshit. Do you know why? Because there are no rules save for the rules of grammar and...
  19. minfarshaw reblogged this from lywinis and added:
    ^^ THIS!
  20. errant-knight reblogged this from freckles04 and added:
    I have to agree. I think it’s better to start with some king os action, even if it’s only a character’s thoughts.
  21. sehnsuchttraum reblogged this from cypheroftyr
  22. iapetusneume reblogged this from cypheroftyr and added:
    I always see “rules for writing” as “suggestions.” Sometimes they are helpful! Sometimes they need to be ignored because...
  23. zeowynda reblogged this from lywinis and added:
    This is a good policy. Gaider, honey, just stick with dialog and world-building.
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